The Kay Griggs Story: Understanding who “THEY” are–maybe the most earth shattering interview you’ll ever hear

It is very well-known that I’m not a very compliant personality. I am able to think clearly and to act independently of any group largely because I have avoided in my life the collective strategies talked about in the Kay Griggs tapes shown below and described at length in the article following this brief introduction. It would be easy to consider Kay Griggs insane, or a bit of a lunatic—but that would only be because the truth that she hints at is too traumatic for most people to withstand while still maintaining their sanities. I can say that based on my personal experience, what she is saying is true. I’ve witnessed many of the same strategies and have been able to act against those strategies largely because I remained free of any collective based organization, whether it is hazing rituals in college, basic training in the military, or binge drinking parties and diabolical embarrassments that are so common among today’s young people. There is and has always been a strategy to it all that lasts with people their entire lives. Most people alive today are broken people running from ghosts of trauma induced upon them by an exterior force strategically imposed. They start off as wonderful children but before they hit their 25th birthday, most are destroyed mentally by some collective force or another. It might be as inauspicious as sexual molestation by a family member or as social shattering as a fraternity brother introducing homosexual embarrassments to pollute the individual morality of a victim for the rest of their lives—to gain that emotional leverage on a mind for collective emphasis as opposed to personal sanctity.

One such story involved something that shocked me at the time—as it was many years ago. I had a meeting with a Hollywood screenwriter who was setting me up with inside connections to the business and he instructed me that I’d have to participate in several orgies just to play the Hollywood game. I instructed him that I was married and that I wasn’t going to do that kind of thing. He replied to me that it didn’t matter how talented I was, that I wouldn’t get anywhere in Hollywood unless I played ball—literally—guys and girls alike. Well, needless to say, my answer was no, and it always has been. I had other run-ins after that as well providing the same type of temptations. When it was realized that “they” couldn’t get to me, they came after my wife in much the same fashion that Kay Griggs described in her tapes. There were break-ins to our house and things would be moved around to let us know that someone had been there—really just to mess with her—to give her a feeling of insecurity that her husband might not be able to protect her—since I worked a lot and was gone most of the day. That went on for nearly ten years and eventually I learned how to deal with them.   To understand who “they” are, which many of us unconsciously always refer to is defined in the Kay Griggs tapes. She names who “they” are and paints a picture behind the veil of American politics that nobody wants to believe. Yet it’s true—completely. Watch the movie, The Wolf of Wall Street to begin to understand the vast complexity of just one organization and the behavior patterns of the people involved and then apply that to the entire federal government and you’ll begin to understand who “they” are.

The courts are stacked against us. The military is not so friendly to the concept of American freedom and Constitutional obligations and we do have a shadow government that is running it all, and the way to get into their club is described by Kay Griggs. She was at the top of that social heap by marriage to the highest inside players in Washington and she told all to anybody who would listen in 2005. She felt it was her obligation as a Christian woman to do so. The vast evil she describes seems to have compelled her. While listening and reading her report think of Jerry Sandusky and the Penn State sex ring, and also think of Dennis Hastert the former Speaker of the House during the Bush administration—essentially during the time that Kay Griggs made these tapes. These are not the ramblings of a scorned wife, or even a failed marriage. They are the testimony of a person who stood up to the abuse because of her faith to avoid the collective association that deeply affects our American government at the very top.

If I hadn’t had a lot of firsthand experience myself in this matter, I might be inclined not to believe her. After all, there aren’t any movies or music in our culture to instruct us of these possibilities—at least not literally. But if you know what you are looking for, you can peak under the covers and see it all—all it really takes is the courage to look. I’m putting this out today as opposed to some other point previously because of the Obama attempt at executive orders against the Second Amendment. Often the people we have to defend ourselves from is not the common thug and bandit looking for an easy ticket through life at the expense of someone else’s productivity, but the kind of people Kay Griggs talks about in the following videos. Until this mess is cleaned up I would declare that the only protection Americans have against these forces is the First and Second Amendments. And in that regard, those liberties need to be extended because of these Kay Griggs tapes. So take a day or several days to watch them all and share them with someone you care about. There is a lot of information and it will come out at times as disgusting. But it’s important to understand that this is what we are dealing with in 21st Century America. There is a war against family structure, there is a marketing ploy at the highest levels to expand sexual deviancy and perversions, and there is a desire to control the world by an aristocratic government elite by destroying all individuals that might resist the attempt by dirtying them up at their very core—so they won’t have the strength to fight them later one. So with that read what follows and listen to Kay Griggs tell her sad story—and learn from it what you can. I included the article in its entirety to make it easy to connect the story to the videos, but linked the original for reference.


Kay Griggs, Former Marine Colonel’s Wife Talks Again  About Military Assassin Squads, Drug Running, Illegal Weapon Deals And Sexual Perversion Deep Within The Highest Levels Of U.S. Military And Government

For 11 long years, Kay Griggs heard all the messy details from her military husband, usually while he was drinking before going into one of his drunken stupors. First going public in 1998 in an eight-hour video interview with a truth-seeking Michigan pastor and FM radio broadcaster, she now is back after 9/11 to warn Americans to beware of the evil lurking within the highest levels of government, bound and determined to destroy America.

July 25, 2005  By Greg Szymanski

Katharine ‘Kay’ Griggs knows what it’s like to have a gun pointed in her face. She knows what it’s like to have her face slapped, her bones broken and her nose bloodied by her former bully of a husband, an active Marine Colonel and a man who she claims is “above the law and literally gets away with murder.”

Virginia court documents and photos of her battered arms and legs tell the sad and brutal physical story of her failed marriage, a tumultuous 11 year roller coaster ride ending in 1999.

But the real story for public consumption isn’t the private divorce court details. It is the secret military information about drug running, weapon sales, sexual perversion and assassination squads she learned firsthand from her husband, U.S. Marine Corps Col. George Raymond Griggs, now remarried and living in Mirror Lake, NH.

This isn’t the first time Griggs is going public with her story about government mob-like hit squads and the sexually perverted secret “cap and gown and skull and bone society” her husband belonged to along with other high-ranking Marine officers and pubic officials.

She first went public in 1996 after receiving death threats, being rescued by Sarah McClendon, former senior member of the White House press corps, who believed her story and took Griggs under her wing, giving her a place to stay and important advice about how to stay alive when dealing with military operatives.

“I became a whistle-blower and received death threats,” said Griggs this week in an extended telephone conversation from her Tidewater, VA. home. “I finally wound up living for safety reasons with Sarah, the dean of the White House Press Corps, who had been with every president since FDR and was in Army intelligence and also an attorney’s daughter from Texas.”

Advised by McClendon to go public without being able to get the mainstream media to listen, she traveled to Adrian, MI on the advice of a friend to do a long extended taped interview with Pastor Rick Strawcutter, a preacher and owner of a 500 watt pirate FM station at 99.3 on the dial in Lenawee County.

Strawcutter, who believed in free speech radio and empowering the public with the truth, produced two extended interviews finally released in 2000, one being a two-hour version called “Sleeping With The Enemy” and the other an unedited eight-hour version available at

Since then Griggs said she went back to her Virginia home, tried to piece her life together and essentially talked to private groups or anybody who would take the time to listen.

Now this week Griggs decided to tell her story again, saying “I will keep repeating it to anyone” and adding after 9/11, the war in Iraq, the London bombings and the fear of terrorism, the “American people are at a point were they are ready and willing to hear the truth.”…  Although they may be shocked, Griggs said the “truth will set you free,” even if it means facing up to the highest form of corruption, including sexual perversion and government sponsored mob-like hits orchestrated by high-ranking military and government officials.

“My former husband George, who is a trained assassin, calls the people he is involved with the members of The Firm or The Brotherhood. If you are in the click, you are above the law and literally can get away with murder. For years, mostly when he was drinking, he told me how he and others in this elite military group would kill people,” said Griggs, as she mentioned name after high-powered name and story after-detailed story about sexual perversion, murder, military hit squads, brainwashing and mind control, all activities sanctioned, participated in and condoned by a group of military and political elite.

“There were many other things and people he told me about which were startling, things I’ll tell you later. But George is like a robot, glazed eyes and all. While he drinks, he sort of comes alive. It is hard to explain unless you actually see him. He told me he was the No. 1 shooter for a long time for a group of powerful people at the top. If a guy is too honest, for example, they get rid of him.”

When asked how large an inside group it was and how she survived after going public with such damning information about so many high-powered names, she added:

“I just keep myself and my story in the public eye. I am a descent, honest person who believes in telling the truth. I have a deep, abiding faith and trust in God. I also come from a strong-minded, strong-willed family and I am not afraid of generals and admirals.

“As far as the sheer numbers of people involved in this cap and gown, skull and bones secret society, it’s hard to say. But it is based on old friendships, college and prep school relationships, covering up secrets and sexual perversion.

“My husband told me about all the sexually perverted rituals, like anal and oral sex in coffins at drunken parties and running naked in the woods at Bohemian Grove. Then there was the last time I saw George was in 2001 and he was telling me to keep quiet, but I think he knows I will never stop telling the truth.”

During numerous drinking binges over many years, one of the main things that sticks out in Griggs’ mind was how easily her husband rationalized killing small number of innocent people and how he was able to somehow justify the killings if it accomplished a strategic goal for the elite group involved.

“Who are these people?” Griggs repeated after being asked the same direct question. “In general, they are first generation German sons, mostly who run things in the military through tight friendships made in Europe and at war colleges. Psyops is a controlling group and Paul Wolfowitz is a major player, as are the many Zionists on this side of the Atlantic.

“Truth is light. And these guys are anxious to collect the global power now in the few hands of their Freemasonic ( French Macons ) brotherhood’s elite hands. It is a very, very small group and a rather homogenized group of global top down existentialist Zionists and socialists. In short Nazi’s who came to the U.S. when Hitler, their boy, turned on them in 1933.

Griggs said other recognizable names and major players she learned from her husband’s arrogant ramblings besides Wolfowitz and other nondescript military and civilian names, involved in what she called a Zionist global takeover, included Donald Rumsfeld, George H. Bush, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger and Andy Fine, to name a few.

“After what I learned from George about “Rummy,” as he called him and idolized him and the others, is that they all operate from this secret little, sick society and are all basically cowards and bullies. And I don’t believe I should ever keep quiet about who they are because the only way we are going to change their behavior is to shed light on what they are doing and show how ludicrous , sick and inept their behavior really is.

“My husband George just idolized “Rummy” and thinks he is just wonderful when basically he is nothing more than an in the closet-Nazi. Also, George liked to brag how he and Wolfowitz were down in Indonesia in the 1970s, down there training young assassins.

“After what I heard all those years and now putting it into prospective after 9/11, I think they are trying to destroy America. Their whole game is all about war, selling weapons and creating a militaristic society. I know first hand from listening to my husband, they will do anything – I mean anything including murder – to get what they want.”

Although Griggs said her husband never mentioned anything specific about 9/11 during their marriage, she claims he hinted several times that “war-gaming and airplane crashes” were necessary elements to control and manipulate the American population.

Putting many of her husband’s comments together with other acquaintances made through him, she had this to say about 9/11:

“Before 9/11, there were some things which let me know that it was involved with war gaming going on at ACT Commands center in Suffolk. War games and diversions and manipulations of American public opinion he said are “necessary.” George explained some examples such as airplane “crashes” and the bombing by the Israeli Lebanese Bekka valley recruits who blew up the Marine Corps barracks. I believe my husband knew ahead of time 9/11 was going to occur.

“I know that there was a war game going on via Tampa, I think it was called Bright Star, which was being run on 9/11 by a weird and insecure USMC General who was in charge while the Army head was conveniently away in the Near East.

“I am sure 9-11 was a joint and combined military operation, using boys who were recruited via A.Q. Khan’s Israeli network in Pakistan and South Africa through Zionists in Hamburg. I believe that certain MI6 British Zionists with the Ian Goodwin-Peter Goodwin-Basil Cardinal Hume Yorkshire network were also involved in funding and recruiting these guys. It was a large and ongoing operation to set up and involved lots of CIA Zionists and lots of funny money.”

The Early Years

Griggs grew up in the elite Virginia Southern class, the child of a Reserve Military family of Scottish and French Huguenot descent. Raised with strict Christian ideals, moral character, deep faith and impeccable ethics, she carried with her the headstrong outspoken nature of her father and the truth-seeking characteristics of her mother.

However, a victim of old Southern male chauvinism and backward traditions, she was married young in an arranged fashion to John Garland Pollard III, the wealthy grandson of a Virginia Governor, who lived off his inheritance in a typical aristocratic Southern-style plantation.

“Looking back it was just horrible and suffocating,” said Griggs, who after getting a divorce in 1983 went on to teach after getting a degree in history with a specialty in Virginia history and the Scottish Reformation.

After resettling in a Virginia Beach home and working as an Asst. Director of the Chamber of Commerce, she was about to meet a dashing Marine Colonel who would forever change the course and direction of her life.

Second Marriage To Col. Griggs After renting the main portion of her house to Col. Griggs, the couple dated for two months and were quickly married, a speedy decision the young bride would quickly learn to regret.

The story of the couple’s courtship is of little importance, but what happened afterwards regarding the colonel’s drunken ramblings takes center stage.

“He started drinking, did a lot of heavy drinking and at first I thought I could change him,” said Griggs, who listened closely over the years about her husband’s role as a military assassin and his role as a military trainer who brought new, young assassins into the fold. “He started talking openly about murder, corruption, assassinations and lies. It was just incredible the names that were involved and the people who were being killed.

“He gave me very detailed and graphic descriptions about how Waco was carried out, as well as how many other hits went down, including Malcolm Kerr, the head of the American University in Beirut and Ron Brown, who was trying to take away the State Department’s monopoly on drug money and arms deals.

“My husband would get into these crazed stupors where he would be running around the house naked and there were times I would find him lying in the grass that way.

“I learned about how he was sexually molested by homosexual teachers at the elite Hun School, where a lot of the others in this small elite group also attended, including the members the Saudi Royal family. He told me how sex is used to control, intimidate and groom boys into this type of military service from a young age.

“He mentioned how many of The Brotherhood, as he liked to call them, are members of the “Cap and Gown” Princeton group or the “Skull and Bones” Yale crowd and how they performed sexually perverted induction ceremonies with anal and oral sex performed inside coffins.”

During the final two years of the marriage, Griggs said her husband basically disappeared. When she finally decided to blow the whistle on her husband’s activities and others surrounding him, she met privately with attorney and former CIA Director William Colby, seeking advice.

‘I really thought I would get some help, but Colby was later found dead,” said Griggs about Colby whose body was found eight weeks after he disappeared on April, 27, 1996, while canoeing near his Rock Point, Maryland, vacation home.

“Then I started getting death threats, had my house burglarized, my car messed with and every time I would try to get the FBI or police to act, strangely nothing would be done. They would do things like steal my underwear, leave black dots on all my blouses and leave twelve screw drivers on my kitchen counter. They would do strange things like this, which if you think about it, is really hard to explain to the police without them thinking your are crazy.

“I later found out I was flagged by Marine General Al Gray, my husband’s boss who put the wheels in motion on much of the criminal activity. He flagged me as a trouble maker knowing I was a free-thinker who was not about to keep quiet like all the other military wives who knew too much. Finally, I sought help from Sarah McClendon, who basically saved my life.”

After weathering the storm of harassment in Washington D.C., she was encouraged by friends to publicize her story nationally through the alternative media since major publications wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. In 1998, she then met Pastor Strawcutter who believed in her and who basically told the same story Griggs is telling today but in much more detail.

Pastor Strawcutter’s 1998 Taped Interview

Besides running a ministry in Adrian, MI., Strawcutter’s main passion is truth-telling, his philosophy turning out to be a perfect match for Griggs when she finally contacted him one morning in 1998 as he broadcasted live during drive-time on his pirate FM radio station.

“I remember one morning getting this call during a commercial break and then we put Kay on live for about 45 minutes. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” said Strawcutter this week by telephone from his Michigan church. “After the show, I arranged for Kay to come to Michigan with her documentation and photos of the story.”

When Griggs arrived with her husband’s diary and photos providing credible documentation for some of what she claimed, Strawcutter taped her story for over eight hours.

After the taping session, he recalls out of all the controversial stories he worked on, the Griggs story was one of the most troubling and difficult to deal due to the sensitive nature of the allegations and the number of high-ranking names involved.

Finally, after sitting on the story for a year, Strawcutter decided to release it in two forms, the first being a 2 hour edited video version of the interview which he distributed under the title of “Sleeping With The Enemy” and the other being simply the longer unedited eight-hour version.

And like Griggs recounted this week from her Virginia home, the Strawcutter tapes are even more detailed about how members of The Brotherhood operate in a world of treachery, deceit, lies, murder, drug running, sex slavery and illegal weapon sales, all in the name of forming a new world order.

“People need to know the truth about 9/11, Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing and, of course, what Kay Griggs is saying,” said Strawcutter, who for a long time on his FM station had been testing the waters of truth by broadcasting controversial stories, many coming from the likes of Michael Collins Piper and other American Free Press writers, an alternative paper that also delves into subjects taboo in the mainstream media.

“I basically believed she was telling the truth and decided to go with the story as she told it.”

Asked if he was ever harassed for bringing the Griggs tapes public, he added:

“No, not really. I never worry about things like that. But I do know after winning a landmark federal case to stay on the air in the 1990s, the feds came down real hard one me about three months after 9/11 with another legal challenge to my station which had become wildly successful, becoming the second top rated show in the county.”

Shortly, thereafter, Strawcutter was forced to take his brand of truth-telling radio of the air waves in the wake of legal roadblocks and challenges designed by the government to bankrupt his efforts.

Katharine ‘Kay’ Griggs Today

The head strong, truth-telling woman who first provided America with her shocking story in 1996, is really no different today although she readily admits the government is still trying to ruin her financially and still monitors her closely.

Although still under the government microscope, her energy and curiosity remain strong as ever.

“With all that’s happening in the world, the time is right now for truth,” said Griggs. “I think America can handle the truth now and I basically want people to know that my husband and the people involved with him are really nothing but cowards and bullies. But they are, at the same time, dangerous, evil people who must be stopped. I am not a vindictive person and I also am not seeking publicity. I simply want people to know the truth about how these people are trying to destroy this country.”

And still trying to “connect the dots” in an attempt to expose The Brotherhood, she added:

“I’m in the midst of research on the headmistress of my Episcopal girls’ school, St. Margaret’s, who spent years working with MI6 at Cheltenham!! This is Victor Rothschild’s group with 6 representing the six-sided star and MI5 being more Masonic but still not sure about all of this yet.”

Single and living in the same home she shared with her former military husband, Griggs still holds firm to her strong Christian beliefs, saying she will talk to anybody who is interested in listening since she firmly believes “truth is light and only the truth will set you free.”

How To Listen To The Kay Griggs Tapes

There are three video versions of her story in distribution. The first is Pastor Strawcutter’s original two-hour version called “Sleeping With The Enemy” available at his web site at

The second is the raw, unedited eight-hour version, Strawcutter saying rights being obtained by a third-party and available at And the third is a two-part video, taken from Strawcutter’s original interviews and edited by Eric Hufschmid located at

Rich “Cliffhanger” Hoffman


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14 thoughts on “The Kay Griggs Story: Understanding who “THEY” are–maybe the most earth shattering interview you’ll ever hear

  1. Good stuff TKR!!!!!!!!
    None of this surprises me but like you, may have at one time. She’s right. People can handle this now. Some people. Few people. We’ve been talking in these circles for years. If you don’t know who the vice pres is, you certainly won’t know or understand the “grove.”
    Thanks for the links. I’ll spend a lot more time on this when I won’t be bothered. Fascinating. This is second only to your Ruby Ridge essay…..for me.
    I bet Gatekeeper could expound on this. She knows where all the bodies are buried….. and then some.


  2. I AM still here in the Old Dominion. God is good. My faith in Jesus Christ is of course the focus of my life. I pray everyday for this nation to survive. Good people are out there. With God’s help the medieval twisted cults which deal in death, destruction, rape and usury will continue to be exposed for what and WHO they are. As my friend Sarah kept saying with her Presbyterian Texan drawl, “Tell the truth and tell everybody you know”. My Father’s advice to me, even though I am only 5’2″, was to “Stand Tall”. He also told me that “cowards and bullies are cut out of the same cloth”. Honest men and women with integrity do not hide behind trees, kill children in foreign lands or operate drones. Clausewitz who is a favorite of these mindless cherry boys, said that morality is 4 to one over arms. Our Bill of Rights should be taught in every school. The Gospels ( 4 books where Christ speaks ) should be the focus of all Christians.


    1. “Tell the truth and tell everybody you know”.

      Yes Ma’am, I have and do, but today, most people are so engrossed in celebrity gossip, sports and pursuit of wealth, that no one wants to listen. All three nice dodges for those trying to hide pedos and mass-murder.
      But I’ll keep on trying.

      This excellent truth-telling blog is a good example. There should be thousands of comments on this blog, but there’s only nine?
      Sure is lonely in this desert.


      1. They want you to feel that way, that its lonely. Its one of the most shadow banned sites out there, but I understand the game enough to know that you can’t trust the numbers or the feedback, but in how much of a threat you are to them where attempted silence is used to quell the truth.


    2. God bless you Kay for speaking the truth and thank you. “The truth will set free.”
      I have been following the abusive treachery of the pederests and pedophiles in the Roman Catholic Church for many years now. Historically this demonic evil had strong roots with
      the Knights Templar.


  3. I know of everyday individuals experiencing the types of harassment Ms. Griggs has described. Some of them also experience non-consentual experiments using frequencies and other exposures by other agents that cause harm, odd symptoms and/or pain. No one will believe them at this point.

    Two informational/news sites on these issues are Surveillance Issues and The Everyday Concerned Citizen.

    Of course, the most important remedy is faith in Jesus Christ, since the corrupt system is top-down, and it is difficult to get help from agencies/groups that ought to be helping. It is also important to know that mind/brain tampering technology is far beyond what anyone could imagine.


  4. Kay, my grandfather was a Freemason (not sure what level) and was awarded the key to out city after 20 years of service in a Steel plant. My mother has told me that she was raped by multiple people before, but won’t really go into it. I suspect that I may have been abused as well, but I have no memory of it. All the circumstantial evidence points to it happening in my sleep. I also remember seeing a shadow figure observing me every night as I would try to sleep, but nobody was in the house except for me and my parents and I would be able to hear them talking from the next room so I know it wasn’t them. I do feel like I’m missing vast hunks of my childhood compared to most people, and I hope that you have any information that would be helpful to me. Is this all related to my grandfather and are shadow related somehow? I know lots of people who have seen them, but nobody knows what they are.


  5. All I’d like to say is… the government has been lying to the world for a long while…some people just refuse to believe it… but in this day and age of disappearances happening daily… the whole world going to hell in a hand basket… is it so far fetched that groups like the illuminati and free masons.. and places like bohemian grove, where the world elite meet for two weeks a year to discuss plans…. I mean come on… to say that is doesn’t happen or they aren’t evil or exist is Insane and ignorant… keep your eyes open kids… the signs are there.. we the people are up shit creek… look at Abu Ghraib, Bengazi, the iran contra…


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